waitnwatch
04-26 10:42 AM
I was only trying to help out. I am always there with my full support. I used to be involved in student politics and I very well understand the importance of organizational strategy and planning. Keep up the great work. It's obvious that you guys are on top of things and I absolutely defer to your judgement.;)
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swamy
11-28 06:04 PM
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ilikekilo
04-13 08:27 PM
This is the sad reality. A lot of people applied using sub labor during the June and July fiasco. A lot of people made it through the July 15th deadline by atleast filing a 140 through sub labor.
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
RIght, bygones are bygones, we have to move on...no point in sulking about it..:)...cant change it now..move ahead..thats all...;)
Now USCIS is processing all these 140s and as they have old dates, they are becoming approvable.
As long as there are visas with old dates approvable - USICS will exhaust them. As long as USCIS exhausts old visas, DOS need not move the dates forward.
RIght, bygones are bygones, we have to move on...no point in sulking about it..:)...cant change it now..move ahead..thats all...;)
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ssreenu
04-13 02:38 PM
The idea is interesting, but I am not convinced. I am a skeptic. Becacuse the question is how will anyone be able to make this idea into reality. Someone should manage a timeplan, budget for this bill. We also need few people to go to Capitol and talk to media and Senators. We need someone to become a leader of this idea. Without a leader and timeplan I cannot buy this idea.
Questions to the person who started this thread:
1. Can you also post the draft of this bill or a document explaining this bill.
2. What is the timeline and budget to push this bill?
3. What is your plan to push it.
Question to whoever says they agree with the idea
1. Post your contribution to this bill if you support it. Basically say what you would do to support it.
There should be a timeplan made and everyone that has pledged would then be asked to do their bit.
I agree, these were not my ideas but it was reasonable enough to motivate me to start this thread. Every one who concurs with these ideas should contribute to this bill. I am still a newbie to this forum and trying to understand how to's...
Questions to the person who started this thread:
1. Can you also post the draft of this bill or a document explaining this bill.
2. What is the timeline and budget to push this bill?
3. What is your plan to push it.
Question to whoever says they agree with the idea
1. Post your contribution to this bill if you support it. Basically say what you would do to support it.
There should be a timeplan made and everyone that has pledged would then be asked to do their bit.
I agree, these were not my ideas but it was reasonable enough to motivate me to start this thread. Every one who concurs with these ideas should contribute to this bill. I am still a newbie to this forum and trying to understand how to's...
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pappu
03-09 11:06 AM
As everyone is aware of the FOIA letters we have received from USCIS. We requested everyone to fax/email us the USCIS letter.
Here is an update on IV plans and what we know till now:
On Friday, during the discussions with USCIS, we came to know that that there is a backlog of FOIA requests and currently they are clearing FOIA requests they received in 2007. We also know from the letter that the report wll not have 'country of chargeability' info. This is a critical info that we ought to have. Even after paying 5K to USCIS, over one year wait time to get the FOIA request completed will be unacceptable to the community.
In light of these developments we have explored other options to get this data and use the copies of replies we get as an example how badly we need this data to get accurate picture of the size and breakdown of the current backlog, so that we can all know how long we need to wait in the current system, if nothing changes. We would also ideally like such data to be always available and updated for public periodically.
Our first option is that we put in effort to get this data without having to pay $5K to USCIS. We will also try to get the data much sooner rather than all of us wait for more than a year.This could be possible via advocacy effort and our initial discussions on this subject have been promising. We will pursue this and if we do not make much progress until the deadline then we may pay 5K and still pursue the advocacy option to get the data faster. Thus we need more than 5K to proceed with these parallel options. The advocacy effort will also be an ongoing task beyond the first month. Thus we request members to sign up for recurring payment option to support this initiative and any other initiative we undertake for the community.
We have added a paypal module on the top of each page with a target amount. Members can use this fresh tool added to IV website to contribute. We prefer if members contributing to the effort on recurring monthly basis for a long term support of IV efforts. All members who contribute through this system will also have access to special 'Contributor's Forum' on the IV website.
Thank You for your effort and contribution for building a stronger community.
Here is an update on IV plans and what we know till now:
On Friday, during the discussions with USCIS, we came to know that that there is a backlog of FOIA requests and currently they are clearing FOIA requests they received in 2007. We also know from the letter that the report wll not have 'country of chargeability' info. This is a critical info that we ought to have. Even after paying 5K to USCIS, over one year wait time to get the FOIA request completed will be unacceptable to the community.
In light of these developments we have explored other options to get this data and use the copies of replies we get as an example how badly we need this data to get accurate picture of the size and breakdown of the current backlog, so that we can all know how long we need to wait in the current system, if nothing changes. We would also ideally like such data to be always available and updated for public periodically.
Our first option is that we put in effort to get this data without having to pay $5K to USCIS. We will also try to get the data much sooner rather than all of us wait for more than a year.This could be possible via advocacy effort and our initial discussions on this subject have been promising. We will pursue this and if we do not make much progress until the deadline then we may pay 5K and still pursue the advocacy option to get the data faster. Thus we need more than 5K to proceed with these parallel options. The advocacy effort will also be an ongoing task beyond the first month. Thus we request members to sign up for recurring payment option to support this initiative and any other initiative we undertake for the community.
We have added a paypal module on the top of each page with a target amount. Members can use this fresh tool added to IV website to contribute. We prefer if members contributing to the effort on recurring monthly basis for a long term support of IV efforts. All members who contribute through this system will also have access to special 'Contributor's Forum' on the IV website.
Thank You for your effort and contribution for building a stronger community.
waitnwatch
12-19 06:53 PM
Made another $30 contribution through paypal
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meg_z
04-20 09:46 AM
Even during the recess, we were talking to the staff of a ton of senators. Most of the time the senators' staff are interested only if someone from 'their constituency' is also affected. We always say we have a ton of folks from each state, but nothing works like a real example.
For example, when we speak to say Senator Kennedy, it helps us to present the story of folks affected by retrogression and living in say Boston, MA. That way, the staff has some incentive to look into this and get hooked immediately.
Since time is short this time, we need all the stories from each state to make our case.
As promised, we will not reveal your story to media if you do not want to.
Though there is no harm to reveal one's name in media as can be noticed by the folks featured in the Roll Call article, Philly Inquirer and News Observer.
We will just concentrate on the crux how you are suffering because of delays such that even if your boss reads this story, he will not be offended or put off (Read our members stories in the three articles I have mentioned, none of it can get the IV members in any trouble at all).
At the same time we understand that you might have reasons to remain out of media and we will fully respect that.
But please send in your stories so we have a convincing story to make our case.....
Your first post seemed asking only career wise successful folks who have patents/inovations and are affected by retrogression. I did write my story and then reread your first post, then thought to myself: my story is just similar to that Italian lady! The only thing different is she probably would have gotten her green card without much trouble, unlike my process.
Please let me know if you need ordinary story like mine, non-IT, mother and having been waiting for many years. Thanks.
For example, when we speak to say Senator Kennedy, it helps us to present the story of folks affected by retrogression and living in say Boston, MA. That way, the staff has some incentive to look into this and get hooked immediately.
Since time is short this time, we need all the stories from each state to make our case.
As promised, we will not reveal your story to media if you do not want to.
Though there is no harm to reveal one's name in media as can be noticed by the folks featured in the Roll Call article, Philly Inquirer and News Observer.
We will just concentrate on the crux how you are suffering because of delays such that even if your boss reads this story, he will not be offended or put off (Read our members stories in the three articles I have mentioned, none of it can get the IV members in any trouble at all).
At the same time we understand that you might have reasons to remain out of media and we will fully respect that.
But please send in your stories so we have a convincing story to make our case.....
Your first post seemed asking only career wise successful folks who have patents/inovations and are affected by retrogression. I did write my story and then reread your first post, then thought to myself: my story is just similar to that Italian lady! The only thing different is she probably would have gotten her green card without much trouble, unlike my process.
Please let me know if you need ordinary story like mine, non-IT, mother and having been waiting for many years. Thanks.
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arunmohan
02-25 02:23 PM
Group:
It is an excellent. Please move on.
It is an excellent. Please move on.
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santb1975
11-27 12:16 PM
and discouraging as well. Can you contribute?
Just $1131 so far in 2 weeks!!
How can anything be done with such amount? We should tell this to people who come up wth their ask list for IV.
Just $1131 so far in 2 weeks!!
How can anything be done with such amount? We should tell this to people who come up wth their ask list for IV.
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pappu
09-18 12:47 AM
Pappu, you make more sense. Let me know how i can help you. ( no accusing bud ). Its your fellow admin who is turning into a comedian.
Please contact your state chapter to help. If you chapter is inactive, please help lead it. Get more people involved. This will be the best help you can offer. If you want to help with customer service email me at info at immigrationvoice.org your details.
And please stop calling admin a comedian. We take this effort very very seriously. This is not a joke. You can afford to write whatever you want anonymously. But we do not. We are replying to your post in detail past midnight and taking care of other IV work at this time knowing fully well that I have to get up very early tomorrow for a busy day.
Sometimes when I see such posts accusing IV for all kinds of reasons, I sometimes think why we are doing this work?
Good night.
Please contact your state chapter to help. If you chapter is inactive, please help lead it. Get more people involved. This will be the best help you can offer. If you want to help with customer service email me at info at immigrationvoice.org your details.
And please stop calling admin a comedian. We take this effort very very seriously. This is not a joke. You can afford to write whatever you want anonymously. But we do not. We are replying to your post in detail past midnight and taking care of other IV work at this time knowing fully well that I have to get up very early tomorrow for a busy day.
Sometimes when I see such posts accusing IV for all kinds of reasons, I sometimes think why we are doing this work?
Good night.
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sweet_jungle
09-14 02:18 AM
So we're not really expecting a response???!!!
yes, we are definitely expecting a response and thats why we are stating the timeline.
At minimum, we definitely need to higlight with details as to how USCIS is playing with us.
Nobody can predict whether we will get a response or not. But, we definitely need to satisfy ourselves that we fought till the last.
2 or 3 years back, nobody expected IV to achieve anything. Look what IV has achieved today. It only happened through relentless protests.
During July fiasco, everybody was resigned to getting their 485 files returned back. The force of IV protest made the reversal.
I am confident that with lots of protests, USCIS will churn out a few approvals in the last week of September. At least, guys who got RFE can expect something. I am not one of them, though, as my file has not been picked up at all. that is a different issue.
yes, we are definitely expecting a response and thats why we are stating the timeline.
At minimum, we definitely need to higlight with details as to how USCIS is playing with us.
Nobody can predict whether we will get a response or not. But, we definitely need to satisfy ourselves that we fought till the last.
2 or 3 years back, nobody expected IV to achieve anything. Look what IV has achieved today. It only happened through relentless protests.
During July fiasco, everybody was resigned to getting their 485 files returned back. The force of IV protest made the reversal.
I am confident that with lots of protests, USCIS will churn out a few approvals in the last week of September. At least, guys who got RFE can expect something. I am not one of them, though, as my file has not been picked up at all. that is a different issue.
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transpass
08-22 02:25 PM
Dudes/Dudets,
The sep 08 CP interview schedule is out for Mumbai, Chennai consulates...Any thoughts?
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/uploads/images/eKYmGhGmUU2-9o2l0sVwDg/IV_APPNTS_0908.pdf
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The sep 08 CP interview schedule is out for Mumbai, Chennai consulates...Any thoughts?
http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/uploads/images/eKYmGhGmUU2-9o2l0sVwDg/IV_APPNTS_0908.pdf
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Chennai...
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waitnwatch
04-12 03:14 PM
hope you have received it.
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santb1975
11-19 07:34 PM
Hopefully we will reach a 1000 soon. The thread has been active for 4 days so far. Let's see how much we can generate over the next 6 weeks
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honest123
04-13 11:36 PM
From the following information:
1.Grant GC to all EB 2 / 3 class pimary applicants who have completed 8 years of continuous stay in the USA without any criminal record.
Personally, I do think the above bill you requested in the #1) is extremely difficult to work. It is because there was a bill proposed to the EB-2/EB-3 applicants to occupy the annual DV-lottery of 55,000 quota but it is NOT becomed a law yet. Now is April, 2011 and the DV-lottery results of this year will be announced soon online and the coming year of DV-lottery will be drawn again later during this coming Oct, 2011 but there is still NO hope to give those EB-2/EB-3 applicants into this DV-lottery quota. If this quota is occupied by EB-2/EB-3 applicants, less applicants will be in GC line.
Also, there is a proposed bill to allow foreign US accreditated universities' advanced graduates of STEM and with a US job offer to have GC but again it is NOT becomed a law yet. Also, your proposed EB-2/EB-3 applicants who have continuous stay of 8 years in US without criminal record to have GC may not fit the requirement of US needed because some of these EB-2/EB-3 applicants are NOT graduated in US universities and some of them are NOT in Science, Medicine, Engineering and Techology academic major which US society in demand.
Last time I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about there is guy who was graduated in a US university with double Master degree---one is M.Sc in computer science and the other is MBA and he still get stuck in getting his first new H-1B visa and later he decided to back home without choice. Yesterday I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about some people who graduated in US Ph.D or doctorate degree in Science/Engineering/Medicine cannot get the GC or some of them get stuck in his or her first new H-1B visa application (due to quota was full or from other reasons) or get stuck in the H-1B visa renewed. So without H-1B visa, how can they get into the EB line for GC?----They are all US graduates and have stayed in US for more than 6-8 years to study with social security card and drivers' licenses and without criminal record !!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you can see if your requested bill in #1) is working, so how about those who graduated in US university in Advanced degree of Science/Medicine/Engineering with US job offer or without H-1B visa?------They are US STEM graduates and have stayed in US with 6-8 years either study or work without criminal record (and with social security card and drivers' licenses)
Personally, I do believe since US demand Science/Medicine/Engineering (STEM) type people and also need the inflow of money to rescue the national debt, so why don't allow those US STEM type graduates get the GC and bring the money to immigrate to start up companies to create job opportunities and to buy houses. Then the non-STEM graduates who want to stay in US can also go into the second path of immigration such as bring money to set up companies to hire 3-6 persons for better economy. The DV-lottery can open to any US STEM graduates to enrol online by " first come, first get" basis and if once annual immigration quota of 55,000 is filled, those graduates need to wait for another year to enrol online for immigration. So every STEM or non-STEM graduates bring money to start companies in US creating job opportunities, paying taxes and bring inflow of money----better economy is growing up.
Moreover, those graduates will invite friends/relatives to visit US, increasing sales of both international and dosmetic airline tickets, hotel reservations, restaurant reservations and uplift the profits all kinds of retail businesses. Tourist visa fees will also add monetary income. Overall, inflow of money and jobs creation are dual powers to uplift the economy.
With inflow of money from immigration, there is NO government shutdown and there is NO hiking taxes needed for the existing US companies.
Also, in Australia, it allows foreign graduates who have stayed in Australia for over 5 years and without criminal record to get the GC automatically
1.Grant GC to all EB 2 / 3 class pimary applicants who have completed 8 years of continuous stay in the USA without any criminal record.
Personally, I do think the above bill you requested in the #1) is extremely difficult to work. It is because there was a bill proposed to the EB-2/EB-3 applicants to occupy the annual DV-lottery of 55,000 quota but it is NOT becomed a law yet. Now is April, 2011 and the DV-lottery results of this year will be announced soon online and the coming year of DV-lottery will be drawn again later during this coming Oct, 2011 but there is still NO hope to give those EB-2/EB-3 applicants into this DV-lottery quota. If this quota is occupied by EB-2/EB-3 applicants, less applicants will be in GC line.
Also, there is a proposed bill to allow foreign US accreditated universities' advanced graduates of STEM and with a US job offer to have GC but again it is NOT becomed a law yet. Also, your proposed EB-2/EB-3 applicants who have continuous stay of 8 years in US without criminal record to have GC may not fit the requirement of US needed because some of these EB-2/EB-3 applicants are NOT graduated in US universities and some of them are NOT in Science, Medicine, Engineering and Techology academic major which US society in demand.
Last time I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about there is guy who was graduated in a US university with double Master degree---one is M.Sc in computer science and the other is MBA and he still get stuck in getting his first new H-1B visa and later he decided to back home without choice. Yesterday I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about some people who graduated in US Ph.D or doctorate degree in Science/Engineering/Medicine cannot get the GC or some of them get stuck in his or her first new H-1B visa application (due to quota was full or from other reasons) or get stuck in the H-1B visa renewed. So without H-1B visa, how can they get into the EB line for GC?----They are all US graduates and have stayed in US for more than 6-8 years to study with social security card and drivers' licenses and without criminal record !!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you can see if your requested bill in #1) is working, so how about those who graduated in US university in Advanced degree of Science/Medicine/Engineering with US job offer or without H-1B visa?------They are US STEM graduates and have stayed in US with 6-8 years either study or work without criminal record (and with social security card and drivers' licenses)
Personally, I do believe since US demand Science/Medicine/Engineering (STEM) type people and also need the inflow of money to rescue the national debt, so why don't allow those US STEM type graduates get the GC and bring the money to immigrate to start up companies to create job opportunities and to buy houses. Then the non-STEM graduates who want to stay in US can also go into the second path of immigration such as bring money to set up companies to hire 3-6 persons for better economy. The DV-lottery can open to any US STEM graduates to enrol online by " first come, first get" basis and if once annual immigration quota of 55,000 is filled, those graduates need to wait for another year to enrol online for immigration. So every STEM or non-STEM graduates bring money to start companies in US creating job opportunities, paying taxes and bring inflow of money----better economy is growing up.
Moreover, those graduates will invite friends/relatives to visit US, increasing sales of both international and dosmetic airline tickets, hotel reservations, restaurant reservations and uplift the profits all kinds of retail businesses. Tourist visa fees will also add monetary income. Overall, inflow of money and jobs creation are dual powers to uplift the economy.
With inflow of money from immigration, there is NO government shutdown and there is NO hiking taxes needed for the existing US companies.
Also, in Australia, it allows foreign graduates who have stayed in Australia for over 5 years and without criminal record to get the GC automatically
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08-12 06:16 PM
Gaurav,may I know how many years of exp do you have?
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sure, I am a database administrator with 12 years of experience. I am oracle certified -OCP DBA in 9i/10g and 11g.
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stupendousman11
09-17 07:06 PM
Kinda agree on the lack of momentum. One indicator being that IV hasn't been "In the news" since Sept 11 2007......a year back!!... This is from the IV website.
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Saralayar
04-15 09:20 AM
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Thanks for your comments.
I honestly do not understand why you seem to be opposed to this approach to alleviate the sufferings of so mant EB3 (esp) and EB2 friends. Discussion and debate are always good.
Here are a few facts:
1. Most of the advanced countries in the world - UK, Australia, NZ, Switzerland, Singapore and some Scandinavian countries offer a time based path to residency and citizenship for the educated class of people who come through the proper channel to work
2. In Canada, Australia, NZ (there could be other countries, but I am not sure) people can apply for a PR based on their OWN education and experience. They are not held hostage by their employers and harassed for ages. It is happening here because the lobbies are very powerful and are supported financially by the corporations to serve their interests. The system has been craftily designed to ensure long term indentured labour
3. In the entire scheme of things the real beneficiaries are the employers and the law firms
4. The system would be streamlined and the work of the government would become much simpler and faster. This is the way governments works in several western countries who offer a time bound programme
5. Every month our EB friends need not stare at the bulletin with great expectations and waste their time
6.Everyone can plan their future better. (I do not think I need to explain this)
Best wishes and thanks for your post..
Instead of wasting time and arguing with others, why don't we start a Blog with this theme. You can put all these facts and the way other countries are doing the immigration process for the professionals. This may attract every one including the Government. In the mean time, we can start sending emails to the Congress men also.
Thanks for your comments.
I honestly do not understand why you seem to be opposed to this approach to alleviate the sufferings of so mant EB3 (esp) and EB2 friends. Discussion and debate are always good.
Here are a few facts:
1. Most of the advanced countries in the world - UK, Australia, NZ, Switzerland, Singapore and some Scandinavian countries offer a time based path to residency and citizenship for the educated class of people who come through the proper channel to work
2. In Canada, Australia, NZ (there could be other countries, but I am not sure) people can apply for a PR based on their OWN education and experience. They are not held hostage by their employers and harassed for ages. It is happening here because the lobbies are very powerful and are supported financially by the corporations to serve their interests. The system has been craftily designed to ensure long term indentured labour
3. In the entire scheme of things the real beneficiaries are the employers and the law firms
4. The system would be streamlined and the work of the government would become much simpler and faster. This is the way governments works in several western countries who offer a time bound programme
5. Every month our EB friends need not stare at the bulletin with great expectations and waste their time
6.Everyone can plan their future better. (I do not think I need to explain this)
Best wishes and thanks for your post..
Instead of wasting time and arguing with others, why don't we start a Blog with this theme. You can put all these facts and the way other countries are doing the immigration process for the professionals. This may attract every one including the Government. In the mean time, we can start sending emails to the Congress men also.
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sen_raju
07-17 08:37 PM
I want to thank the core team and all the members of IV for the tremendous effort everyone has put in.
I will still be supporting and contributing to IV.
Contributed $100 today.
If you plan anything around the Orlando area, please let me know. I will be more than happy to participate and help.
CHEERS!!!!
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Total Contribution: $175+
I will still be supporting and contributing to IV.
Contributed $100 today.
If you plan anything around the Orlando area, please let me know. I will be more than happy to participate and help.
CHEERS!!!!
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Total Contribution: $175+
krupa
05-10 03:22 PM
Immigration Voice should take up this issue with USCIS. Those who came to US after 2007 should get PD of the date they applied for transfer of Labor OR applied for 140. Other wise it is abuse of law.
I am reviving this old thread because it was created by me, and it is highly relevant now. I predicted last month that EB2-I will become "U" soon, and it has happened (almost).
The quick way out of this mess is to ask CIS to move subst labor folks back in the queue. That will ensure that both EB3-I and EB2-I will move forward to July 07. Most of the labor substitution took place in that month itself.
This is an admin fix and does not require any new legislature. This is an idea whose time has come.
I am reviving this old thread because it was created by me, and it is highly relevant now. I predicted last month that EB2-I will become "U" soon, and it has happened (almost).
The quick way out of this mess is to ask CIS to move subst labor folks back in the queue. That will ensure that both EB3-I and EB2-I will move forward to July 07. Most of the labor substitution took place in that month itself.
This is an admin fix and does not require any new legislature. This is an idea whose time has come.
udaykaran
04-29 08:50 AM
Do you happen to know anyone who has been granted visa with this document saying that the student has completed all the degree requirements? Also, if I get another document from my University can I add it to the file I have already submitted to immigration?
No. I am trying to find out if anybody in this forum applied in advanced degree quota with this type of letter
No. I am trying to find out if anybody in this forum applied in advanced degree quota with this type of letter
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